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Xref: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu alt.atheism:51129 talk.religion.misc:82761 talk.origins:40400 Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!crabapple.srv.cs.cmu.edu!fs7.ece.cmu.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.centerline.com!uunet!olivea!sgigate!sgiblab!adagio.panasonic.com!nntp-server.caltech.edu!keith From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider) Newsgroups: alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc,talk.origins Subject: Re: Albert Sabin Message-ID: <1pi966INNq93@gap.caltech.edu> Date: 2 Apr 93 20:54:30 GMT References: <1993Mar19.175329.21327@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> <1993Mar25.225025.16037@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> <1993Mar31.234354.11694@rambo.atlanta.dg.com> Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu wpr@atlanta.dg.com (Bill Rawlins) writes: >>[...] it is patently untrue (as has been demonstrated ad >>nauseum) that the complexity of life is a contradiction of the second >>law. >My point is that order does not come from disorder. It does not... or it can not? When you freze water, you've created an ordered crystal from a disordered liquid. Overall, the entropy is increased, but locally order is increased. >... the creation od DNA by random processes is incalculably remote. And, you find the idea of a god more likely? Besides, we can apply the anthropic principle to circumvent any probablilty problems. keith
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